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G2Voice Broadcast 133 – Is Herpes a Life sentence?
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G2Voice Broadcast 134 - AntiNutrition vs. Pronutrition
- Our Bishop Samula working in Uganda
- I discovered that i have lumps under my breast and it pains me seriously so i have to show it to my husband. Immediately my husband went inside and brought out mms solution and apply one drop of it. I felt inpulse. Within micro second the pains vanished. So i thank GOD for my husband to be a member of genesis 2 church of health and healing. From Lagos State Nigeria. MRS. ADEGORITE OLUFUNKE.
- Bishop Jordan, Loved the book and wanted to share a couple of things Jim brought up in the book that may be useful. As a JAG and University business teacher for years, the partnership issues he expresses are mute issues just as he wanted them to be. Because MMS cannot be patented, it is not a product protected by law. Natural minerals and acids are not patentable although the US Patent laws are going strange on vaccines are patenting mutations and spliced viruses. Not a single vaccine is given for natural diseases today, as Jim knows. So, since the mineral is not patentable and know how has been made public domain by the first book, no partner nor contract to sell MMS between partners is enforceable. There is no proprietary property you can convey. The UN con artists cannot pierce the church. You do have chemical knowledge of a universal product which FDA would love to control. They can’t do it either, but I agree someone is likely trying to figure out how. Meanwhile, your knowledge is pledged to the Lord through Genesis II. Brilliant. Nobody can buy treatments. Stunning. Donations pay for everything. God’s money. Loved Jim’s book. Going through again. Tell me about the Correspondence Course. I have taught MBA business, marketing and accounting for years. Can my wife and I take the correspondence course. She is a Biblical Research Graduate from the WAY International and was on their publishing staff for 18 years. I have a minor in Chemistry and a PhD Minor in Statistical Analysis. We owned an insurance company and are a fabulous team. We know how to study. Kindly, A J
- Hoserfishing 6 days ago (edited) · Automatically held
yes...works so well on dogs that the vet isn't needed for many things. In fact a dog rescue volunteer I know uses it as defense 101 I used it on external abscesses, the vet couldn't stop the infection. Then wanted to know how it was stopped. It has never come back like everytime before.
- James Williams I'm 77 and I take mms every day ! Such a burden off my shoulders people ! I don't have to worry about getting any sickness, Yea !
- Our Ryan hasn’t had any issues with he’s kidneys since we had him on the mms mark Thank you so much And the chicken pox cleared extra fast too!
- I have used MMS to successfully treat my cats from leukemia and FHIV. What dose do I need to give this 36 year old to treat hep b. Thanks for your help
- ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 5 star review from Michael M.:"MMS fantastic fast results..! - MMS has been in my medicine counter over 10 years. Anytime I have any health issues I mix the appropriate protocols and health issues are rectified within several days. The World needs to know about this product"
- Things are looking up here in Nigeria. We are having excellent results with skin infections, malaria, diabetic ulcers & gangrene, eye infections, oral care, etc.The only area I am hoping to see good results is with cancer. I am yet to see this happen.
Meantime, I have been holding classes in Nigeria, teaching people how to use MMS for various conditions. The word is spreading. To God be the glory.
Mega blessings my brother.NB: I trained with you in South Africa in Oct/Nov 2014. I flew in from Lagos, Nigeria, West Africa. I'm second from right on the back row, standing, in the attached photo. Tony Akinyemi Psalm 48:14
@G2 Voice I'm noticing last night i'm starting to taste hot peppers again . I can taste flavors but not heat. But now i can , this is my second confirmation on that this month . lol. its a trip how after you stop taking the mms theraputic treatment it continues its job. I'm sure even more will be revealed.......hehe
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G2Voice Broadcast #133 – Is Herpes a Life sentence?
Herpes is a very scary word in this day and age where most think of this disease as a miserable life sentence. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY THAT IS NOT TRUE! There are over 20 written testimonies below stating otherwise. We’ve also heard from hundreds in the seminars worldwide and letters we receive ALL saying the same thing. No more outbreaks! That is the key to determining the status of the Herpes virus in the body!!!! Remember that.
I will give you the current stats and the standard medical statements about Herpes. Herpes is one of the “dis-eases” we are told is incurable. It is estimated that as many as 80% of people in the U.S. have the “Herpes” virus. The WHO says 50% or more of the world is positve for the Herpes virus.There are many types of the Herpes virus. People that test positive for the Herpes virus are condemned to a life of prescription drugs to keep outbreaks in check, but never “cure” the dis-ease.
Remember someone is making billions “treating the symptoms” of Herpes outbreaks. The immune system in a healthy body naturally produces “anti-bodies” when combating an intruder i.e. a “pathogen”. So, to say you have “antibodies” for a specific disease doesn’t mean you have the disease, but that the body has fought it in the past. The medical and pharmaceutical industries prey on the ignorance of people to convince them to be on “their” medications like “Valtrex”. That is the truth, plain and simple. “Anti-bodies” really should be called “Pro-bodies” when they are produced naturally, because they are “for” or to help the body, not against (“anti”.) Now, if the body is tricked into producing antibodies by adding “antigens” injected into the blood stream to generate an antibody response, then are we getting a true measure of the antibodies by these blood tests? Are these “antibodies” always going to show up on “their” tests to produce false positives? Is that their goal? And what about the adjuvants that are added. If an “adjuvant” such as “Squalene” has been introduced into the bloodstream, then the body’s own immune system will attack itself, causing an “auto immune disease” which we are seeing a lot of today - especially in regard to HIV. Many of the health issues we see today are really an artificially implanted auto immune response from the body and misdiagnosed as something different.
Globally, an estimated two-thirds of the population under 50 are infected with herpes simplex virus type 1. It is said that it is incurable and only treatment. It has caused a lot of stress in the lives of those who have been diagnosed positive with the awful HSV-1 or HSV-2 even though they have never had an outbreak! To be “asymptomatic” in regard to the herpes virus is to test positive from a herpes IgG or Igm herpes test without ever having an outbreak. This means that the body has at one time created antibodies to fight the herpes virus HSV-1 or HSV-2. Supposedly, this is evidence that your body is infected. The truth is you may have the antibodies in your body and test positive for HSV-1 or HSV-2 and NEVER EVER have an outbreak because your natural immune system keeps the virus in check or contained. This also means one probably couldn’t even pass it on to others. It is too weak. The medical system has even made up a term for this being; that person that is asymptomatic is a “carrier”. When in truth that person has a very healthy immune system which is a powerful defense against any dis-ease!
Here is some very good reading regarding this topic. I included a quote from Andreas Moritz’s book,
“Vaccine-nation, poisoning the population one shot at a time”.
“The fact is in order to create a natural and real immunity to a disease, a pathogen must provoke the complete inflammatory and immune response. This is a complex response that resonates throughout the body’s equally complex immune system. When this happens naturally, the body acquires life-long immunity to a certain germ.
But for this to happen, the pathogen must pass through natural channels, from outside to inside. For instance, the pathogen must pass from the respiratory system or through the saliva or skin and then to the other organs involved in filtering it out such as the mucus membranes, thymus, liver and spleen. Again, it really doesn’t matter what your tests results are showing. The Genesis II Church Sacramental protocols are eradicating this dis-ease and many others throughout the body. Below are a few testimonies we have received. Let other people’s bodies be our "clinical study” and not these manipulated tests, results and medical literature written by the “Big Pharma”.
False positives for the standard Herpes tests are very common! Imagine, the people worldwide not even having this dis-ease in their bodies testing positive by “their” tests for it falsely! A false positive for the Herpes virus can destroy lives! Some have even committed suicide because of severe depression. Dating, marriage and natural sex are all changed! The conflict to lie or not to your partner, should one stay single? Can I have children? Will my children have it? Scaring pregnant woman to even abort. No social life? These and more are the questions from people worldwide that have been tested positive for the Herpes virus! So, if that diagnosis is wrong or misunderstood there can be so much unnecessary suffering!
NOTE: Mutant antibodies can be produced by the body if a weaponized version of a virus is introduced into the body which can keep giving a false positive.
Antibodies that the body produces naturally are only ONE WAY our amazing body protects itself. The human body is a VERY complex set of systems that can work independently of one another as well as in cooperation with one another! The more I study what we know about the body, I come away more amazed. It was truly created by a loving caring Omnipotent Creator!
The human body is amazing. Psalm 139: 13-17
For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb.
I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well. My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth. Thine eyes did see my substance yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them. How precious also are thy thoughts unto me, O God! how great is the sum of them!
I made a list of known defenses our bodies contain and this is what we say we know! There is so much missing. What about the atomic level? We are observing as humans with the technology we have at the cellular and molecular levels as far as we are able but what about the atomic level? Just in the past few years, man has discovered lymphatic vessels in the brain. The belief WAS the lymphatic system stopped at the throat area and the brain had none. WRONG! There are many bullets in the body’s immune system gun. Not an exhaustive list I’m sure. HELP THESE SYSTEMS!
• Antibodies – B-cells
• Hypochlorous acid – T-cells
• Hydrochloric acid – Stomach acid number #2 stop needs to be strong pH
• Viruses – cleaner’s janitors
• Macrophages – pacman like
• Bacteria – to dissolve, breakdown materials
• Parasites – to eat toxins and degenerating tissue
• Temperature - fever
• Oxidation - breathing
• Cell death – apoptosis (cell death) when all else fails
• Stem cells - rebuilders
• Lymphatic system – to remove toxins Clogged?
• Digestive system – the feeding and sewer system Mouth to Colon
• Starving – fasting
• Water – solvent and minerals and 70% of body. Is it clean Natural?
• Endocannabinoid system
• The skin – largest organ absorption and sweating
• Hair – what should you shave?
• Food - Nutrients. Basic raw materials
• Mucus – collectors
• Blood brain barrier – the Mexican wall stay out! Hahahah!
• Blood – the waiter delivering what’s being ordered
Note: This is what we know so far. Atomic level? Not much information. So, the body uses more than Antibodies to say the least.
NOTE: A lot of people don’t want to give a testimony about herpes,
HIV and even cancer. They are afraid people think Herpes and HIV are NOT curable!
1. Testimonial On Herpes A little update on the herpes2. well after the 3 or 4 days of the tingling feeling and the sensations of a sore that never came out, i am happy to report that not only was there no breakout but now, for me, as my husband, the tingling and any sensation has stopped also...
...looks like the herpes was not allowed to do its thing with us this time! thanks to mms.
before mms, on the average, i had a hsv2 breakout about 2x a month --- sometimes 1---sometimes 3
--- but i have always, like clockwork, had a breakout during my period or right after, so it will be interesting to see what happens in 2 or so weeks when my menses comes.
i uped my dose from 5 drops 2x a day to 5 drops 3x a day rather than increasing the # of drops-- b/c i still get a little nauseas with 6 drops or over ---but i seem to be fine with 5drops 3x a day the last two days.
i also wanted to mention that i feel a bit more clear in my head (brain fog for years)and i have less headaches. much of the stiffness and aches(especially in my neck and legs) have vanished since being on mms. also, in the mornings i used to feel like i was hit by a truck when i woke up ---but now i feel like i was only hit by a bike. its pretty amazing that all this happened only since jan 1st 2008 --- that much occurred for me in about a two week time frame! i used almost every type of holistic/natural/alternative health kick out there for over 15 years, and never have i had a shift like this in such a short period of time! ...and all for 25 bucks! --- i have spent thousands and thousands.
I really want to thank JIM HUMBLE. he is making me a better mother for my children.. i hope he knows how many he has touched!
2. Herpes eye wound and brain encephalitis cured
I was suffering from herpes encephalitis infection, and also herpes wounds on the skin around my eyes. This was going on for about a year, and nothing could help me it seemed.Within days of using MMS the herpes around my eyes disappeared. Within a couple of weeks the herpes encephalitis infection was gone. I used the MMS 1000 protocol. I started at one drop, and worked my way of to 3 drops every hour (6-8 times a day). I would like to add that in my experience doing many small doses of MMS every day seems much more effective than a few large doses.As you know, herpes encephalitis is a very serious condition. I was very sick. I tried everything conventional medicine and alternative medicine could offer. Some remedies did offer some temporary comfort, but only MMS could cure me, believe it or not!I am now several months without any symptoms. I would like to thank Jim Humble for his mission and having given me my life back. Thank you.
3. Cold Sore that didn’t appear!
I had a cold sore coming on although I didn't realize it at the time b/c I was taking MMS, so my only indication was that my right nostril looked a bit red and a wee bit swollen. I finished my 21 day protocol in the meantime with no other discomfort or indicators around the nostril. The other day when I looked in the mirror I noticed what looked like fresh skin with a little bit of old skin sloughing off.....I thought "that's odd, it looks like what it does when I have had a cold sore when new skin appears after meds and 10 days of treatment." I completely believe that MMS arrested the development of that cold sore! I have had them in and around my nose on and off for about 10+ years. I know after all that time what it feels like coming on (tingling, red, then the appearance of bumps and then full blown...omg!! right?) Well, not this time. I swear MMS worked! I even went so far as to spray some on the site to speed recovery & that works too!
4. Herpes Simplex I cured
I contracted a cold sore (herpes simplex 1) while on vacation. Luckily, I packed my spray bottle and DMSO (70/30) dropper with me. I used the spray protocol and did it every day for five days 8 hours a day. I cured myself by the fifth day! I experience very little discomfort and I believed it accelerated the healing process. I have not had a recurrent outbreak since. MMS 1 Works!
5. Healed of Shingles
Just wanted to share our most recent healing experience with MMS.
My wife broke out with "Shingles" of all things. Shingles comes from the Chickenpox virus as a child and lies dormant in the body until later in life when a person's immune system is weakened. Then it breaks out. I think they have trigger elements in our environment to cause these outbreaks; as with many viruses men have made for evil purposes of greed, manipulation and control (but that's another subject).
However, we searched the internet to make certain of what it was compared to symptoms and visible photos. We stated building her immune system up by diet and I had some homeopathic pain lotion for the pain. Pain seemed to be horrible to my wife. The pain was reduced and kept to a minimum with the pain lotion. We followed some natural ways of dealing with the shingles and it helped a lot. We were getting good results and the outbreak or spread had stopped. The listers were still full and tight visibly. And then I remembered the stories of malaria in your book that I purchased. I said, if MMS can kill this virus in a couple of days, surely it will work to kill this shingles virus. So, I discussed it with my wife and she agreed to take it, instead of going to the doctor. So, I started her a regiment of 5 drops in the morning, 5 drops in the evening and 5 drops before going to bed. I didn't want to make it any stronger, because she hates the taste and I certainly didn't want her to be discouraged in anyway. The blisters begin to shrink and dried up. We knew the shingles were licked. We went to 5 drops in the morning and 5 drops before bed. This is shortened for time sake. But the whole process was just a few days for the blisters to stop and dry up. Because of what I read about the dormant nature of this virus, we decided to do the drops for a few days after all symptoms went away.
6. Herpes finally gone!!!!
I have taken MMS for 18 month at 6 drops twice per day. I do not have any mouth ulsers or herpes outbreaks anymore! I also noticed I sleep much better and breath much better.though it has not cured me of my fibromyalgia it has helped. I will try the DMSO with MMS1 very soon for several months.
My brother had a bad case of intestinal flu for a week and popped over one day, I said, "give this MMS a try!". He took 2 drops and went straight home. He phoned me back 20 mins later saying all his discomfort had gone somehow. So, he came over for some more just in case but he ever needed anymore.
7. MMS 2 for herpes outbreaks
For those of you who can't avoid getting re-infected (ornery spouse), or who have a nasty strain of herpes that regularly comes back I have found that a solution of Ca hypochlorite of 1/4 tsp per 16-20 fl oz of water used via Q-tip cotton swab onto tingling areas (signaling the potential approach of blisters) such as in or around nostrils, corner of lips, around and in eyes (stings a little but never hurt my eyes), has when used morning and evening stopped it from developing further, taken the irritation out, and caused it to subside quickly, ...esp. when an adult takes 15-20 alfalfa tablets, chews up and washes down with lemonade or grapefruit juice at same time.
8. Genital Herpes cured after 47 years of hell.
“I hope someone can gain from my story and realize that no matter how difficult the path is, or has been, and how bad the attacks are, that all you need to do is persist with MMS (CDS) and it will be gone. I for one have considerable faith in CDS above standard application MMS, and would use no other in any further treatment I undertake for whatever in the future. In the end I could not believe how simple it really was to eradicate this monster after all this time”.
I have lived with this devastating and painfully horrendous virus for 47 years. After treatments with high strength CDS covering a period not exceeding 3 months overall, my genital herpes (HSV2) is completely cured.
It is now over 18 months since my treatment and not a sign of the HSV2 virus have I seen in that time. Previous attacks came every 2 months as regular as clockwork.
My story of how I succeeded with this cure was far too long for a testimonial, so in the interests of providing some real helpful feedback, and for those who would like to know the full story, it is 5 pages, I have presented a document which can be viewed at the following link below.
Good results, genital herpes cured.
I finished that second course many months ago, and have not seen the slightest sign of the genital herpes virus since. At time of this writing November 2015, it has now been over eighteen months since I finished all treatments and not a sign of genital herpes attacks have I had in that time. And I state here, in that time since, I have encountered some emotional turmoil that in the past would have always triggered a herpes attack. I do believe with absolute certainty, for the first time in 47 years I am now clear of the herpes virus. Overjoyed in not really good enough to describe it. This virus totally ruined my life, at times I wonder how I kept going. But at least now I can contemplate my later years and plan future events, knowing full well I am not going to be saddled with an attack at a time you would least want one, which usually happened.
The problem with a genital herpes life sentence is that it is not the type of problem to even discuss with anyone, so telling people my problem was never an option that was going to be accepted. This was very much an alone path to walk. Also considering the mentality of most of society, where genital herpes is primarily the source of great jokes from low types who have no idea of what a person with it goes through. This virus is taking over the world and the number of people who have contracted it is enormous. Never a word do you hear from the media regarding protection and avoidance of this horrendous monster.
I occasionally consult an alternate practitioner and he has also confirmed that the herpes virus is no longer resident in my system. That was my opinion before I asked him, he simply confirmed my assessment. I have no intention of getting a blood test to prove the finding, I hate doctors at the best of times, I don’t really care who believes me, I know it is gone forever, and I’ll leave it to doctors to keep prescribing aciclovir to poor unfortunates, keep them ignorant and in the dark, keep telling them it is incurable and keep Big Pharma in the style to which they have become accustomed. Big Pharma will not be happy as I am no longer on their expensive drugs.
I hope someone can gain from my story and realize that no matter how difficult the path is, or has been, and how bad the attacks are, that all you need to do is persist with MMS (CDS) and it will be gone. I for one have considerable faith in CDS above standard application MMS, and would use no other in any further treatment I undertake for whatever in the future. In the end I could not believe how simple it really was to eradicate this monster after all this time. What I find really sad and annoying is, that I could have had a marvellous life not overshadowed by this viral monster, but alas all we had were doctors telling us it was incurable, there was no MMS or Jim Humble back then. And to Jim Humble I can only say “Thank You” for your efforts in making this knowledge public.
I’ve always been a very anti-drug person, I can still count on two hands the number of headache or pain killers I have taken in my life. I never took pain killers with my herpes attacks primarily due to my hatred of drugs, I learned to tolerate the pain and the itch. I was glad to say goodbye to the aciclovir and I take no other doctors drugs and don’t intend to start. Sadly too many people are up to their eyeballs with drugs and are afraid to dump them in favour of MMS. If people could realise just what a Band-Aid measure drugs are, they would stop taking them and search out the real reasons for their malady. The system has people lured into the false reality that they cannot go on living without all these drugs and the help of doctors. Alas too many people live in the vain hope that all they have to do is go to a doctor, get a prescription for some drug or other, and all their problems will just disappear. That is not the answer.
On the last positive note, I did have two wives and three children, none of whom never caught the virus. Believe me, you don’t know the meaning of vigilance until you go through the routine of making sure you don’t pass it on.
To all of you that have this virus, think long and hard, don’t hesitate any longer, and start on MMS (CDS) without delay. And if you don’t like the taste of MMS and if you don’t like being ill from MMS, I strongly suggest you consider CDS. I never got ill or had diarrhea once, the taste is much more pleasant and fairly easy to take, especially in cold water. And in consideration of the very strong solution of CDS that I used that was extremely effective in removing this virus, I strongly suggest you get hold of some of that without delay.
9. Shingles cure?
After dealing with this issue for quite a while and tried a topically applied 28% sodium chlorite solution...(as used to make MMS). Using this cleared up several areas of active "lesions" in 2-3 days or so. Application seems to react strongly to these areas...causing itching...causing some areas to turn a lighter color...then causing redness. Probably best to keep application down to 2xs per day or so. Do not apply right before bed...since you might not sleep due to the itching. After the redness subsides...the "lesions" dry up and skin gradually returns to normal.
That this issue was shingles has not been verified...but I had chicken pox as a child and I'm in the age bracket when it most occurs.
10. Herpes simplex - Labialis gone in 3 days
"It was requested by the Mother of my Daughter to come and assists with her healing of Herpes simplex (lips).
It had become uncontrolable and was spreading around the mouth area.
Approximatly half of the mouth was covered in large unsightly scabs, alive and tingling.
I set to work with MMS, i made a Solution at the advised 1:5 ratio of 3:15 drops mixed with water in a tea-cup.
My daughter, very maturly applied this to the area every half hour as requested.
She also took one drop to five mixed with water internaly (drinking).
The results were obvious within twelve hours.
The moist tingling of herpes had reduced and the drying-out process had began.
At 24 Hours, the tingling had reduced to 20%. The continued healing was obvious.
At 48 Hours, the vague rememberance of this irritating out of control “virus” merely lingered and the scabs had dried up and fallen away.
At 72 Hours the Problem was solved and Herpes completely gone!
Continued one drop-to-five maintanance Dose for seven days, as immune system booster."
11. No More Herpes
I suffered from herpes all my life, with help from the www.undergroundcure.com(6 week protocol) I was able to cure my herpes with an Alkaline Diet and Ji Humble's Herpes Prortocol it better if you do a liver cleanse before starting on MMS and a colon cleanse after the MMS protocol. I went all the way to 7 drops 4 times a day for almost a month, ofcourse you should start with a low dosage ( 1 or 2 drops) for the first 5 days the work your way up. I got rid of my herpes and eczema ( and probably many other things) Oxygen therapy ! cures all anearobic virus ! I want to thank Jim Humble and Jesus Christ my lord a savior for curing me through MMS.
12. NO MORE HERPES
After years without an outbreak, I woke up with the telltale itch. At first I thought it was a spider bite on my butt. It didn't take long to figure out I was having a genital herpe outbreak. First I took out the pharmaceutical creme I had stowed away, applied it and low and behold here come two more lesions popping out. I kept putting the creme on hoping that would help since my last outbreak I tried everything from tea tree oil, oregano oil, bentonite clay etc etc. and it lasted for weeks. Well this all started on a Tuesday morning, by Wednesday morning herpes # 4 & 5 were appearing then I remembered the MMS that was hidden way back on the shelf. Gratefully, I got on the web site to get the recipe. I couldn't wait to read through everything so I just did 6 drops and 1/4 tsp apple cider vinegar with some water and slammed it. Thursday morning Herpe #1 was dried up. #'s 2&3 were red marks and 4&5 were gone. I got right back on the website and caught up with all that is happening and I AM BACK! FULL TILT!! Facebook, emails, I'm joining the church. I will preach. I will take the test. I will continue to fight for health FREEDOM. I am writing to my congressmen and to my political party (Libertarian) to let them know what is going on with this ludicrous FDA lawsuit against these Health Freedom Warriors! STAND UP FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN... EVEN IF YOU ARE STANDING ALONE! Peace begins with me. One other note, God Bless You Jim Humble! When your time comes; You sure have earned yourself a high place up there in heaven! Thank you!
13. Cured My Cat of herpes in the eye
My cat was diagnosed with herpes in her eye. It would get infected and she'd get crust all around it. Sometimes it would be really bad. I had to pay $80 each time to take her to the vet and she would get an antibiotic cream and that would heal it for maybe a month. I started giving her activated MMS. I would activate one drop, then add water and squirt a little bit in her mouth. I started with one dose, but would then do multiple doses in a day (but not stronger, just more doses). Within 4 weeks her eye was healed. Not only did the pus stop, but both her eyes became very bright and clear. She also lost weight. She was a little fat, and she slimmed down to what the vet called a healthy weight for an indoor cat.
That was 4 years ago. She's still very healthy and her eye infection never came back! The vet refuses to believe that she's "healed" and told me that herpes can lie dormant for a long time and then suddenly flare up. I doubt that's the case!
14. Shingles / Herpes Zoster cured in three days
My mother had unbearable pain in leg as she had an attack of Shingles / Herpes Zoster. She had very little knowledge of protocols. Yet she took six drop doses three times a day for three days. The consequent over reaction was unavoidable but the inflammation of the nerves was gone with just light tingling sensation remaining on the fourth day. This is a miracle given that others with similar condition wouldn't want to live with the pain. This is without any prescription pain killers or anti-virals.
15. A written letter
It has been a long one year and six month to finally see a test result that is negative. Happy isn’t the word getting my life back is a blessing. For anyone who do not believe in the 7- day protocol, they really don’t want their life back. These doctors are here to make money off of us. They are practicing medicine they are not trying to cure it. If anyone has an ounce of common sense they would save every penny to get this 7- day protocol kit. I’m helping everyone I met on the dating site (which is not a good site by the way) to help them heal their body from the herpes virus. A lot of people have to see that you go through it in order to try it. I will like to THANKS 2 Obasi Scott & Bervin Jackson. I mean this from the bottom of my heart. Thanks Obasi Scott for answering every single email I sent u. These individuals are here to help us make the best decision of your life and get your life back.
Youtube video with the Herpes negative test result:
16. MMS Cured My Genital Herpes
About 6 months ago, I was searching for some kind of relief/cure? for genital herpes for my wife and myself. I have been suffering from herpes outbreaks for 18 years and gave my wife the gift that keeps on giving last year and she has been miserable with almost non- stop outbreaks:( It sure has taken its toll on our sex life. I stumbled across mms surfing the net and immediately bought the video, the book and the product. We both started with morning and night applications, starting with 1 drop and working our way up to 15 drops, each day adding another drop.
When we go to 13-15 drops it was way to hard (diarrhea, abdominal cramping, loss of energy, and for me hot flashes, crazy sweating all the time). We backed down to 10 drops in the morning and 10 at night for a month straight. I admit we did miss a couple here and there but we persistent. Honestly, we stopped after that because I got tired of the hot flashes and low energy. After stopping all our symptoms mentioned above returned to normal.
Now from the info I read on the net, it is recommended you take 15 drops twice a day for a month the herpes virus is close to the surface of the skin and you need to reach the point of saturation. Bottom line is I am cured, my wife still continues to get outbreaks and we are beginning another month and a half long treatment. It has been close to 5 months and I have not had one outbreak, which is a huge breakthrough. It is worth all the weird side effects to be free of that ugly beast called herpes.
17. Genital Herpes.
In September 2011, while traveling the world, I discovered that I was infected with HSV-2. To say I was horrified is easily an understatement. I simply could not believe I was in this position. I probably went through every emotion ranging from denial, to anger, to sadness, etc. The one emotion that I refused to allow into my thoughts was that of acceptance. The one thing that kept me going was the belief that I would be able to overcome this disease as I have overcome many other trials throughout my life. At that point I set out on a mission to overcome this horrible disease which left me feeling isolated and tainted. After a short while I simply felt unworthy of companionship and conducted my life in a manner that allowed me to keep my distance from others and especially women.Over the course of 2 years, I stayed focused and tried just about everything ranging from MMS, Resolve Herpes, the Underground Cure, Oregano Oil, Hydrogen Peroxide, and numerous other home remedies I came across. I committed fully to each of these treatments but none of them worked and some of them were quite expensive.
I was experiencing outbreaks every 3 months no matter what I tried. I had just about reached the point of giving up. I did not see a way out of this day to day nightmare that had left me depressed, anti-social, and lonely. As a last and final resort, I decided to go back to Jim Humble’s site as I still believed in MMS and its ability to help so many people. I began to question if the manner in which I had taken it was correct and if I had really given it enough time to do its job.
While visiting his site, I came across a link for the Genesis II Church Health Restoration center in Colombia. I figured I had nothing to lose at this point. I had already hit rock bottom and felt that there was nowhere to go but up. I needed to speak with someone who understood MMS and could help guide me in the right direction.
I sent an email to Arch Bishop Mark and he responded to me quickly with both encouraging words and sound science. He was actually the first person I had ever shared this with. He was very kind and told me that he could help. After a few short minutes on a Skype call, I had no doubt that he genuinely wanted to help and also had the ability to do so.
I arrived in Santa Marta Colombia and was greeted at the airport by his sons Joe and Luke. They had already taken care of everything and set me up with a great penthouse only 3 minutes from the beach and with food already in the fridge as well as my treatment ready to go. The next morning my path to restored health had begun. I had made arrangements to stay at total of 30 days which would prove necessary if I was to kick this stubborn virus from my body.
The Genesis II Church family was amazing and very generous with their time. They were with me every step of the way and helped me push forward with my treatment which was easy and painless. The protocol they taught me was completely different from what I had tried previously and was MUCH more effective. They also taught me more about proper nutrition and provided me with raw foods to help me strengthen my immune system. My time in Colombia was both comfortable, enjoyable, and was a very necessary break from what I was dealing with. For the first time in years, I felt like I was on the right path.
Since leaving Colombia some time back, I am happy to report I have been COMPLETELY symptom free for the first time in nearly 3 years. Not only that, but I have also tested negative for HSV-2 on two separate occasions. A year ago, I could have never imagined being in the position to write this testimony. I feel blessed to have found the Genesis II Church and be able to share my experience with others who may be going through the same thing.
I finally feel like I have my life back. Herpes took a huge toll on me emotionally and that is something that I am still coming back from but I could not be happier or more grateful for what the Genesis II Church and the Grenon family did for me.
Herpes is a horrible disease that I would not wish on anyone. It may not be life threatening but the impact it has ones inner self worth is devastating. I would HIGHLY HIGHLY recommend those suffering from Herpes to visit the Genesis II Church and together with their help, overcome this horrible disease.
Thank you Genesis II Church for what you do on a day to day basis to help others. It is truly something special and a kindness that I will never forget.
18. No More Herpes:
I suffered from herpes all my life, but with help from the underground cure (6- week protocol) I was able to cure my herpes with an Alkaline Diet and Jim Humble's Herpes Protocol. It is better if you do a liver cleanse before starting on MMS and a colon cleanse after the MMS protocol. I went all the way to 7 drops 4 times a day for almost a month, of course you should start with a low dosage ( 1 or 2 drops) for the first 5 days the work your way up. I got rid of my herpes and eczema (and probably many other things) Oxygen therapy cures all anaerobic viruses ! I want to thank Jim Humble and Jesus Christ my lord a savior for curing me through MMS.
19.After years without an outbreak,
I woke up with the telltale itch. At first I thought it was a spider bite on my butt. It didn't take long to figure out I was having a genital herpes outbreak. First I took out the pharmaceutical cream I had stowed away, applied it and low and behold here come two more lesions popping out. I kept putting the cream on hoping that would help since my last outbreak I tried everything from tea tree oil, oregano oil, bentonite clay etc. and it lasted for weeks. Well this all started on a Tuesday morning, by Wednesday morning herpes # 4 & 5 were appearing then I remembered the MMS that was hidden way back on the shelf. Gratefully, I got on the web site to get the recipe. I couldn't wait to read through everything so I just did 6 drops and 1/4 tsp apple cider vinegar with some water and slammed it. Thursday morning Herpes #1 was dried up. #'s 2&3 were red marks and 4&5 were gone. I got right back on the website and caught up with all that is happening and I AM BACK! FULL TILT!! Facebook, emails, I'm joining the church. I will preach. I will take the test. I will continue to fight for health FREEDOM. I am writing to my congressmen and to my political party (Libertarian) to let them know what is going on with this ludicrous FDA lawsuit against these Health Freedom Warriors! STAND UP FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN... EVEN IF YOU ARE STANDING ALONE! Peace begins with me. One other note, God Bless You Jim Humble! When your time comes; you sure have earned yourself a high place up there in heaven! Thank you!
20. Genital Herpes: About 6 months ago I was searching for some kind of relief/cure for genital herpes for my wife and myself. I have been suffering from herpes outbreaks for 18 years and gave my wife the gift that keeps on giving last year and she has been miserable with almost nonstop outbreaks:( It sure has taken its toll on our sex life. I stumbled across mms surfing the net and immediately bought the video, the book and the product. We both started with morning and night applications, starting with 1 drop and working our way up to 15 drops, each day adding another drop.
When we went to 13-15 drops it was way too hard (diarrhea, abdominal cramping, loss of energy, and for me hot flashes, crazy sweating all the time). We backed down to 10 drops in the morning and 10 at night for a month straight. I admit we did miss a couple here and there but we are persistent. Honestly, we stopped after that because I got tired of the hot flashes and low energy. After stopping, all our symptoms mentioned above returned to normal.
Now from the info I read on the net, it is recommended you take 15 drops twice a day for a month the herpes virus is close to the surface of the skin and you need to reach the point of saturation. Bottom line is I am cured, my wife still continues to get outbreaks and we are beginning another month and a half long treatment. It has been close to 5 months and I have not had one outbreak, which is a huge breakthrough. It is worth all the weird side effects to be free of that ugly beast called herpes.
21. "A little update on the herpes2. well after the 3 or 4 days of the tingling feeling and the sensations of a sore that never came out, i am happy to report that not only was there no breakout but now, for me, as my husband, the tingling and any sensation has stopped also...??...looks like the herpes was not allowed to do its thing with us this time! thanks to mms.??before mms, on the average, I had a hsv2 breakout about 2x a month --- sometimes 1---sometimes 3?--- but I have always, like clockwork, had a breakout during my period or right after, so it will be interesting to see what happens in 2 or so weeks when my menses comes.??I upped my dose from 5 drops 2x a day to 5 drops 3x a day rather than increasing the # of drops-- b/c I still get a little nauseas with 6 drops or over ---but I seem to be fine with 5drops 3x a day the last two days.??I also wanted to mention that I feel a bit more clear in my head (brain fog for years)and I have less headaches. much of the stiffness and aches(especially in my neck and legs) have vanished since being on mms. also, in the mornings I used to feel like I was hit by a truck when I woke up ---but now I feel like I was only hit by a bike. It’s pretty amazing that all this happened only since Jan 1st 2008 --- that much occurred for me in about a two- week time frame! I used almost every type of holistic/natural/alternative health kick out there for over 15 years, and never have I had a shift like this in such a short period of time! ...and all for 25 bucks! --- I have spent thousands and thousands.? I have never felt this impressed with a supplement in all my 15 years of being on this path!??not to say that much of what I have done did not help me a lot...it really did! but not so OBVIOUSLY and QUICKLY as the mms! I also know I have a long way to go still and I have to continue with many of the things i have been using (green superfoods,vit/mineral supps./ herbs, probiotics, healthy foods/etc. etc.).??I really want to thank JIM HUMBLE. He is making me a better mother for my children. I hope he knows how many he has touched!?? Well thanks for listening.
22. Shingles: Every now and then when I slept badly or was in a weak condition, I used to get SHINGLES.?Terrible spot the size of making a circle between my thumb and index finger covered in blisters and with a terrible pain For weeks on end I would suffer from the burning sensation. Now my mother gave me 4 drops of activated MMS1 every hour for 6 times the first day. Then I became nauseous and cut back to 1 drop every hour the second day.?But then the third day the SHINGLE-spot was dried up already!!!! I am elated.?Now I use protocol (MMS)1000 to attack the rest of my diseases. Praise God. I am so happy. It truly is a miracle mineral provided by the Lord.
6 Things You Need to Know About Herpes Tests, According to Doctors Who Administer Them
March 9, 2018
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In a perfect world, testing for STIs would be as simple as taking an online quiz. You'd plug in your answers, hit submit, and boom: Seconds later, you'd have your outcome. More importantly, the results would be accurate. Unfortunately, in the case of certain sexually transmitted infections — herpes included — securing your status isn't straightforward. Without a herpes outbreak present (such as a cold sore), it's extremely difficult to know whether or not you're HSV-positive, and herpes testing is so flawed and misunderstood that doctors say it leads to unnecessary stress.
Picture this: You've started seeing a new partner and you two feel ready to have sex. You tell them you should both go get tested first and they happily agree. (Cheers to open communication.) From there, the two of you have blood tests and ask to be screened for STIs, including both types of herpes: herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV-1), which most commonly causes oral herpes, and herpes simplex virus type 2 (HSV-2), which most commonly leads to genital herpes.
Neither of you has ever experienced symptoms, so when the test comes back and reveals that you're herpes-positive, you're stunned. You're instantly hit with a minefield of emotions, including shame — no surprise, given the decades of stigma surrounding herpes and other STIs. But wait: Did you know that most people are positive for HSV-1, and that most are asymptomatic, meaning they have no symptoms?
1. If you have zero symptoms, getting tested won't help you.
The problem is that blood tests for herpes when no lesions or symptoms are present are often bullshit. I realize that's a pretty strong word, but after speaking with doctors who have administered these tests, it's become more and more apparent to me how misunderstood — and in some cases, just plain wrong — the results they give are.
Part of the reason they're flawed has to do with the fact that most people have been exposed to HSV-1 or oral herpes. "For HSV-1, close to 100 percent of people in the U.S. are antibody-positive because they have been exposed at some point in their lives, though only a percentage of these individuals will actually get cold sores," says Adam Friedman, the residency program director at the George Washington University School of Medicine & Health Sciences in Washington, D.C. He adds that blood tests can be misleading because they usually don't detect the herpes virus itself and instead look at the level of antibodies against the virus, which is merely a sign of immune response to it.
2. There are two common blood tests used to identify herpes — and they're often misleading.
"I had a patient once who underwent this test, which was positive, and was told she has herpes, which to her was devastating and life-altering," Friedman says. "She burst into tears when I explained the significance or lack thereof with this test, which is very misleading." There are two common blood tests used to identify herpes: IgG and IgM. The IgM test is still used by some doctors even though it has been denounced by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). According to the American Sexual Health Association (ASHA), IgM tests can lead to deceptive results, as well as false assumptions about how and when a person acquired HSV.
And that's not all: IgM tests fail to accurately distinguish between HSV-1 and HSV-2 antibodies, leading them to provide false-positive results for HSV-2. In other words, if you've been exposed to oral herpes (which most people have), results of the IgM test could lead you to believe you're positive for genital herpes, when in fact you simply have antibodies against HSV-1.
IgG tests, on the other hand, are more accurate, but aren't without their own issues. For instance, ASHA says that while an IgG test can distinguish between HSV-1 and HSV-2, the problem is that the time it takes for IgG antibodies to reach a detectable level varies from person to person. This means that even with accurate results, someone could get a false-negative if they have the test administered too soon after contracting the virus (physicians recommend waiting 12 to 16 weeks after possible exposure).
Aside from the two aforementioned blood tests, there are other FDA-approved gG-based blood tests that can offer accurate results, which the ASHA has broken down in this handy chart. However, the association also points out that these tests can't determine whether the site of infection is oral or genital, which poses a problem for those who want to know their HSV-1- or HSV-2-specific status.
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All of this tells us that sure, there are some currently available blood tests for herpes that can tell you your status — or give you some idea of it — but they're still far from perfect. And when we're dealing with a illness that's highly and widely stigmatized the way herpes has become, most people are looking for airtight answers. This is precisely why so many doctors, as well as the CDC, do not recommend getting tested unless you have the common symptoms associated with herpes, such as itching, burning, or a blister.
3. Doctors don't advise getting a blood test for herpes without any symptoms.
Hilda Hutcherson, assistant professor of obstetrics and gynecology at Columbia University Medical Center in New York, is one of those doctors. "I usually don’t do tests for herpes [unless] someone has a lesion or a sore, something I can see, [then] I will do a swab and take it to a culture or check the DNA on the materials I removed," she says. "If there’s nothing there and I do a blood test and the blood test comes back positive, let’s say it’s positive for type 1, what does that really mean? Most people are positive for type 1." She adds that someone could be HSV-1-positive and either have or not have genital herpes. The result "doesn’t mean much, and it makes people go crazy."
Hutcherson's motto is pretty simple: Why stress yourself over something if you haven't seen anything — especially when it's something as common as herpes? "Let's say they have a blood test come in positive but they’ve never had a lesion. Now what? You may never get a lesion," she says. It's for this reason that she recommends people do not get tested for herpes unless they have a visible lesion that can be cultured and sent to a lab. Let's say you get tested anyway and it comes back positive, despite the fact that you have no symptoms. What do you do?
4. Useful methods include testing an actual lesion.
Keep in mind that there's no such thing as "safe" sex, only safer sex, which means using protection and being open and honest with your partner. "It can definitely happen," Friedman says of the chances of transmitting the virus to a partner without a visible outbreak. "It’s called asymptotic shedding [and] there are studies showing that the rates of transmission of HSV-2 are the same for symptomatic and asymptomatic." He adds that this is why using protection during sexual contact is so important, regardless of what blood tests say. Unfortunately, you can never ensure your risk of transmission will be zero, whether or not you know you have herpes, but using a condom or dental dam will get you closer to it.
Like Hutcherson, Friedman also doesn't recommend blood tests for herpes in the absence of symptoms. "The tests that are useful involve sampling the actual blister or cold sore," he says, which can involve smearing scrapes of skin cells from the sore onto a slide, targeting the infected cells. As with some of the blood tests, though, this sampling test still won't tell you what type of herpes virus is present. A viral culture, on the other hand, will tell you which virus you have, though it takes some time to come back. "Direct fluorescent antibody is by far the best," Friedman says, "as you can get a result in a matter of hours which can be as useful as a culture." Not all hospitals have access to this method, however.
5. If you get a positive result, don't panic. It really doesn't mean much.
All of this is to say that unless you have symptoms consistent with the herpes virus, why put yourself through the emotional turmoil of getting a blood test that may or may not give you legit results? As Hutcherson notes, if you do get a blood test and it comes back positive but you're asymptomatic, what does that mean for you if you have nothing to treat? For many, due to the high rate of stigma still surrounding herpes, it can mean feelings of self-contempt, humiliation, and distress, all of which could be avoided if you aren't experiencing any symptoms.
To recap, while there are some tests for herpes that can prove correct, none are 100 percent perfect, and blood tests are particularly problematic since they can produce false positives and negatives. We also know that the majority of the population has some form of herpes, so IMO it's a mystery as to why we're still making a big deal out of it. No one likes blisters or sores, but neither does anyone love having acne, a widespread condition (85 percent of young adults battle it) without the same level of attached shame.
6. The bottom line: Tests for herpes are more worry than they're worth.
If you do have symptoms, don't fret: If you know your status, you're at an advantage in that you can talk with your doctor and find an antiviral drug that works for you. Medication can curtail the severity of your symptoms, as well as the number of outbreaks you get. Additionally, taking an antiviral daily will greatly reduce your chances of transmitting the virus to someone else. In case you missed it, there's also a very promising new drug for herpes on the horizon, which researchers say could be the most effective one yet.
Take it straight from the pros and don't put yourself through the stress of a herpes blood test if you don't need to. And, whether you have symptoms or not, know that you're not alone if you are herpes-positive.
The Herpes Myth You Need to Stop Believing
August 9, 2017
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This article is part of STI Truth or Lie, a series in which TheSTDProject.com founder Jenelle Marie Pierce addresses STI questions and beliefs with the facts.
"If you get herpes, you'll know who transmitted it to you."
It’s a natural reaction when something not so great, like a herpes diagnosis, happens to you to want to trace how it happened: Who gave it to me? Could it have been avoided? Did they know they had it? Why couldn’t I tell they had it? Assigning blame can be a way of discharging uncomfortable emotions such as fear, disbelief, embarrassment, shame, distrust, guilt, and even hopelessness — emotions that often come alongside a herpes diagnosis. There’s an awesome TED Talk by Brené Brown that wonderfully articulates our natural tendency to assign blame. But Brown says pointing fingers can also be a way to avoid processing your emotions. The problem with blame is that it does nothing to help you move forward confidently and responsibly in response to your diagnosis.
What's more, it doesn't make much sense from a practical perspective, because it can be next to impossible to pinpoint exactly when and from whom you contracted the infection. The only way to know exactly who gave you herpes is if you are diagnosed right after you have manual, oral, or penetrative sex with someone for the first time ever (meaning, you never had any kind of sex with anyone before that person) and before you have any kind of sex with someone else. (Keep in mind that most herpes blood tests look for antibodies to the virus, not the virus itself. That means you generally won't be able to test positive for herpes until at least a month or two — sometimes more, depending on the test — after exposure.)
Almost every other scenario comes with a caveat. For instance, did you know that herpes can and often does lie dormant for a long time in someone’s body before ever causing an outbreak? That means you can't automatically conclude it came from whomever you slept with right before your first outbreak. Also, many folks never experience an outbreak at all — they are called asymptomatic carriers, because they are still able to transmit the infection to others but don’t experience symptoms themselves. That's right, not everyone knows they have an infection.
Meanwhile, some folks with herpes believe that if they're not in the middle of an outbreak or if they’re using condoms, they don't have to disclose their STI status to new partners. In reality, even when someone isn't having an outbreak, they can transmit the virus — although the risk is much lower. We also know that when someone is using condoms, they can still transmit the virus. Again, condoms still reduce the risk of transmission considerably, but the idea that any form of sex is 100% "safe" or risk-free just isn't true; that's why it's more accurate to talk about "safer sex" than "safe sex."
The idea that any form of sex is 100% "safe" or risk-free just isn't true
Yes, some people may know beyond a reasonable doubt whom they contracted herpes from (if, for example, someone has just tested negative for herpes, hooks up with someone who knows they have it, and then tests positive for herpes). But sometimes even the testing for herpes can be a little dicey. (Many STI panels don’t test for herpes at all. In fact, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention doesn't recommend herpes testing for people without symptoms, saying that diagnosing herpes in asymptomatic carriers hasn't been proven to change their sexual behavior or reduce transmission of the virus.)
NOTE: The following information may or may not be true but these are the standard beliefs today about Herpes, the tests and the treatments. You saw above what we believe and are seeing happening in regard to the Herpes virus, tests and CURING of Herpes outbreaks!
Genital Herpes - CDC Fact Sheet
Genital herpes is a common sexually transmitted disease (STD) that any sexually active person can get. Most people with the virus don’t have symptoms. Even without signs of the disease, herpes can still be spread to sex partners.
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What is genital herpes?
Genital herpes is an STD caused by two types of viruses. The viruses are called herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV-1) and herpes simplex virus type 2 (HSV-2).
What is oral herpes?
Oral herpes is usually caused by HSV-1 and can result in cold sores or fever blisters on or around the mouth. However, most people do not have any symptoms. Most people with oral herpes were infected during childhood or young adulthood from non-sexual contact with saliva.
Is there a link between genital herpes and oral herpes?
Oral herpes caused by HSV-1 can be spread from the mouth to the genitals through oral sex. This is why some cases of genital herpes are caused by HSV-1.
How common is genital herpes?
Genital herpes is common in the United States. More than one out of every six people aged 14 to 49 years have genital herpes.
How is genital herpes spread?
You can get genital herpes by having vaginal, anal, or oral sex with someone who has the disease.
If you do not have herpes, you can get infected if you come into contact with the herpes virus in:
- A herpes sore;
- Saliva (if your partner has an oral herpes infection) or genital secretions (if your partner has a genital herpes infection);
- Skin in the oral area if your partner has an oral herpes infection, or skin in the genital area if your partner has a genital herpes infection.
You can get herpes from a sex partner who does not have a visible sore or who may not know he or she is infected. It is also possible to get genital herpes if you receive oral sex from a sex partner who has oral herpes.
You will not get herpes from toilet seats, bedding, or swimming pools, or from touching objects around you such as silverware, soap, or towels. If you have additional questions about how herpes is spread, consider discussing your concerns with a healthcare provider.
How can I reduce my risk of getting genital herpes?
The only way to avoid STDs is to not have vaginal, anal, or oral sex.
If you are sexually active, you can do the following things to lower your chances of getting genital herpes:
- Be in a long-term mutually monogamous relationship with a partner who is not infected with an STD (e.g., a partner who has been tested and has negative STD test results);
- Using latex condoms the right way every time you have sex.
Be aware that not all herpes sores occur in areas that are covered by a latex condom. Also, herpes virus can be released (shed) from areas of the skin that do not have a visible herpes sore. For these reasons, condoms may not fully protect you from getting herpes.
If you are in a relationship with a person known to have genital herpes, you can lower your risk of getting genital herpes if:
- Your partner takes an anti-herpes medication every day. This is something your partner should discuss with his or her doctor.
- You avoid having vaginal, anal, or oral sex when your partner has herpes symptoms (i.e., when your partner is having an outbreak).
I’m pregnant. How could genital herpes affect my baby?
If you are pregnant and have genital herpes, it is very important for you to go to prenatal care visits. Tell your doctor if you have ever had symptoms of, or have been diagnosed with, genital herpes. Also tell your doctor if you have ever been exposed to genital herpes. There is some research that suggests that genital herpes infection may lead to miscarriage, or could make it more likely for you to deliver your baby too early.
Herpes infection can be passed from you to your unborn child before birth but is more commonly passed to your infant during delivery. This can lead to a potentially deadly infection in your baby (called neonatal herpes). It is important that you avoid getting herpes during pregnancy. If you are pregnant and have genital herpes, you may be offered anti-herpes medicine towards the end of your pregnancy. This medicine may reduce your risk of having signs or symptoms of genital herpes at the time of delivery. At the time of delivery, your doctor should carefully examine you for herpes sores. If you have herpes symptoms at delivery, a ‘C-section’ is usually performed.
How do I know if I have genital herpes?
Most people who have genital herpes have no symptoms, or have very mild symptoms. You may not notice mild symptoms or you may mistake them for another skin condition, such as a pimple or ingrown hair. Because of this, most people who have herpes do not know it.
Herpes sores usually appear as one or more blisters on or around the genitals, rectum or mouth. The blisters break and leave painful sores that may take a week or more to heal. These symptoms are sometimes called “having an outbreak.” The first time someone has an outbreak they may also have flu-like symptoms such as fever, body aches, or swollen glands.
People who experience an initial outbreak of herpes can have repeated outbreaks, especially if they are infected with HSV-2. Repeat outbreaks are usually shorter and less severe than the first outbreak. Although the infection stays in the body for the rest of your life, the number of outbreaks may decrease over time.
You should be examined by your doctor if you notice any of these symptoms or if your partner has an STD or symptoms of an STD. STD symptoms can include an unusual sore, a smelly genital discharge, burning when urinating, or (for women) bleeding between periods.
How will my doctor know if I have herpes?
Your healthcare provider may diagnose genital herpes by simply looking at your symptoms. Providers can also take a sample from the sore(s) and test it. In certain situations, a blood test may be used to look for herpes antibodies. Have an honest and open talk with your health care provider and ask whether you should be tested for herpes or other STDs.
Please note: A herpes blood test can help determine if you have herpes infection. It cannot tell you who gave you the infection or how long you have been infected.
Can herpes be cured?
NOTE: “They” CDC says No Cure for heroes BUT they have medicines! CDC promotes meds and they even own 20+ patents for vaccines! Same old story folks! Follow the $$$$$$$!
There is no cure for herpes. However, there are medicines that can prevent or shorten outbreaks. One of these anti-herpes medicines can be taken daily, and makes it less likely that you will pass the infection on to your sex partner(s).
What happens if I don’t get treated?
Genital herpes can cause painful genital sores and can be severe in people with suppressed immune systems.
If you touch your sores or the fluids from the sores, you may transfer herpes to another part of your body, such as your eyes. Do not touch the sores or fluids to avoid spreading herpes to another part of your body. If you do touch the sores or fluids, immediately wash your hands thoroughly to help avoid spreading your infection.
If you are pregnant, there can be problems for you and your developing fetus, or newborn baby. See “I’m pregnant. How could genital herpes affect my baby?” above for information about this.
Can I still have sex if I have herpes?
If you have herpes, you should talk to your sex partner(s) and let him or her know that you do and the risk involved. Using condoms may help lower this risk but it will not get rid of the risk completely. Having sores or other symptoms of herpes can increase your risk of spreading the disease. Even if you do not have any symptoms, you can still infect your sex partners.
You may have concerns about how genital herpes will impact your overall health, sex life, and relationships. It is best for you to talk to a health care provider about those concerns, but it also is important to recognize that while herpes is not curable, it can be managed with medication. Daily suppressive therapy (i.e., daily use of antiviral medication) for herpes can also lower your risk of spreading genital herpes to your sex partner. Be sure to discuss treatment options with your healthcare provider. Since a genital herpes diagnosis may affect how you will feel about current or future sexual relationships, it is important to understand how to talk to sexual partners about STDsExternal.
What is the link between genital herpes and HIV?
Herpes infection can cause sores or breaks in the skin or lining of the mouth, vagina, and rectum. This provides a way for HIV to enter the body. Even without visible sores, having genital herpes increases the number of CD4 cells (the cells that HIV targets for entry into the body) found in the lining of the genitals. When a person has both HIV and genital herpes, the chances are higher that HIV will be spread to an HIV-uninfected sex partner during sexual contact with their partner’s mouth, vagina, or rectum.
“Access to education and information on both types of herpes and sexually transmitted infections is critical to protect young people’s health before they become sexually active,”
Dr Marleen Temmerman, Director of WHO’s Department of Reproductive Health and Research
The new estimates highlight, however, that HSV-1 is also an important cause of genital herpes. Some 140 million people aged 15-49 years are infected with genital HSV-1 infection, primarily in the Americas, Europe and Western Pacific. Fewer people in high-income countries are becoming infected with HSV-1 as children, likely due to better hygiene and living conditions, and are instead at risk of contracting it genitally through oral sex after they become sexually active.
“Access to education and information on
By Elizabeth Boskey, PhD - Reviewed by a board-certified physician. Updated January 14, 2017
What Does a Positive Herpes IgG Test Mean?
Herpes IgG tests are one type of blood test for the herpes simplex virus (HSV). Herpes blood tests look for the body's immune reaction to a herpes infection. They don't search directly for the virus. Because the immune reaction takes time to develop after the time of infection, it's not immediately detectable. In fact, depending on the type of test used, it can take up to four months to become positive on an HSV IgG test.
How Does an HSV IgG Test Work?
When a person becomes infected, the immune system tries to fight off the infection. That's true not just for herpes but for any pathogen, Part of that process involves the production of antibodies. These proteins are specific for each infection they are fighting.
For a new type of infection, it takes time for the body to make strong antibodies. The body can make several kinds of antibodies to fight infections. The two types that herpes blood tests look for are IgG and IgM. Herpes IgM antibodies usually are detectable by herpes blood tests within 7-10 days after initial infection. IgM levels stay high for approximately two weeks. After that, they usually decline.
Therefore, IgM testing is primarily considered to be useful for detecting acute infection. However antibody levels also sometimes go up during an outbreak.
In contrast, herpes IgG antibodies do not show up until slightly later after initial infection. A positive herpes IgG test, if the test result is accurate, means that your body has been infected with the herpes simplex virus.
Furthermore, type specific herpes IgG tests can be used to distinguish between HSV-1 and HSV-2. Type-specific tests are far more than non type-specific tests. However, they cannot detect whether a particular infection is oral or genital. The only way to determine that is to watch for symptoms.
HSV-1 usually infects the mouth, causing oral herpes, and HSV-2 usually infects the genitals. However, there are a growing number of people with genital HSV-1. That's why herpes IgG and IgM tests can only tell you that you have been infected. They can't show where.
HSV Blood Test Results & Timing of Infection
If you test positive for herpes IgG but not IgM, then your herpes infection is probably not recent. You've probably been infected for at least two months. Individuals with newer infections are more likely to test positive for both herpes IgG and IgM. They might also be positive for herpes IgM alone. The converse, however, isn't true. Positive herpes IgG and IgM results together do not necessarily mean you were infected recently.
Between 30 and 70 percent of patients with recurrent herpes infections will test positive for herpes IgM.
Test Results and Timing of Infection
Infection date indeterminate
No infection detected
It is possible to have a false positive or false negative result. That's true for either a HSV IgG or HSV IgM test. Therefore, don't panic if your herpes blood test results do not agree with your known risk factors and sexual history. Instead, talk to your doctor about possible issues with testing. Diagnostic testing isn't perfect. You also may not be accurately assessing your risk. Many people do not understand that herpes can be transmitted even when their partner has no symptoms or does not know they are infected.
Chicken Pox Is A Form Of Herpes
Yes Jeane, Chickenpox is one form of a Herpes Virus. Most of us are familiar with the 2 sexually transmitted types of Herpes: Type 1 (oral herpes) and type 2 (genital herpes). But actually, there are over 25 known viruses that fall into the Herpes’ family. Known as Herpesviridae, they are divided into three sub-families, Alphaherpesvirinae, Betaherpesvirinae, and Gammaherpesvirinae. Only 8 are known to infect humans. Chickenpox is caused by a Herpes virus called Varicella. It can also be called Varicella-Zoster or Human Herpes Virus-3. This is because the Vericella Virus can lay dormant in your nerve roots and then cause the Zoster virus (shingles) later in life. This later infection can also be called the Herpes Zoster Virus.
I know what you’re thinking! Why so many names? The answer involves how specific your doctor is when diagnosing the symptoms you have.
Let’s break it down; Chickenpox is caused by the Varicella virus. Like all Herpes viruses, it causes itchy papulae (rash or blisters) to appear. Chickenpox mainly shows up on the face, scalp, and trunk, with a small amount presenting on the limbs. This virus can re-appear later in life and is then known as the Varicella-Zoster Virus. Zoster, meaning belt or girdle, is more an explanation of where the rash appears- most commonly around the trunk- it’s merely a reactivation of the Vericella Virus.
Depending on your Doctor, he may diagnose the Varicella virus if you’re young and have never presented with an infection of this type before. He may also diagnose you with the Vericella-Zoster virus if you are older and have had Chickenpox in the past. If you present with the symptoms of the virus and only have a rash that presents with papulae around your trunk, he may just say you have the Zoster Virus. If your doctor is one that goes the extra mile, he could take a sample of your rash and have it tested. This will tell him exactly what virus is present and give him the opportunity for a more specific diagnosis.
No matter what you are diagnosed with, the problem is still the same. A type of herpes virus has infected you, and the result is itchy, burning lesions on your skin that make you want to scratch like a methamphetamine addict!
In case you were interested, once a person is infected by a Herpes virus, the infection will remain for life. It doesn’t matter the type; once the initial infection heals, the virus itself will lay dormant in the nuclei of peripheral nerves, held there by specific antibodies in a person’s immune system. Once an infected person has their immune system stressed, or they become immunocompromised, the virus will “travel” down the nerve and a reddened area will give rise to a blister that is full of the live virus. The biggest difference between all types of herpes is where the blister forms and the specific virus that caused it. The 8 known common names for Herpes viruses that can infect humans, are:
• Type 1- Oral Herpes (HSV-1)
• Type 2- Genital Herpes (HSV-2)
• Type 3- Chicken Pox and Shingles (HHV-3)
• Type 4- Epstein Barr virus (EBV) Can cause Mononucleosis (The kissing disease)
• Type 5- Cytomegalovirus (CMV) Can also cause Mononucleosis
• Type 6 and 7- Roseolovirus (HHV-6a and HHV-6B and HHV-7)
• Type 8- Kapasi’s Sarcoma (KSHV)
Bonus Chicken Pox Facts:
• More than 90% of the US population has been infected by the Chicken Pox. It’s spread by direct contact with ruptured skin blisters or respiratory droplets coming into contact with mucus membranes. It has an extremely high infectious rate. Of those who have not been vaccinated, 90% who occupy the same household as an infected patient will get the disease.
• The average time between infection and the presence of a rash, or virus in respiratory droplets, is between 10-23 days, most commonly about 2 weeks. This makes a person’s contagious period starting around 12 days and lasting until all the papulae have scabbed over, usually about 4-5 days.
• The average number of blisters on a person infected with chickenpox is 300-400.
• There are about 5,000-9,000 hospitalizations every year as a result of chicken pox. Approximately 100 of those result in death.
• A vaccine for the Vericella virus has been available since March 1995. Around 6 million doses have been given so far. It is recommended all children be vaccinated between 12 and 18 months.
One big area of misunderstanding is blood testing and herpes infections. Blood testing means looking for antibodies. The immune system produces antibodies in response to an infection, and so the presence of antibodies means that at some point there was an infection somewhere with herpes. Now keep in mind that most people with herpes are unaware they have been infected because most people don’t get recurrent cold sores on their lips or genitals, most people have a silent infection and simply periodically shed the virus.
Understanding blood tests for herpes
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